Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 21:17:39 -0600 From: schulzeTo: tednellen Subject: Re: a request Ted, I have gone to your web page and read your comments, the lesson plan, the letter, and all of the students' essays. Very powerful stuff here. I am not sure just what your concerns are, so I will take the liberty of giving you my gut reaction to the material. Some will be positive and some will be negative. Then I will tell you what some of my concerns would be and see if those are some of your own. First,The children clearly express very strong feelings about the sept. 11th happenings, and some of them are very hard to read. It makes me wonder if this is their true perception of the events, if this is the way the media in Pakistan is presenting the facts to them, if their thoughts represent their parents views, or their teacher's views. It is hard, of course, to read essays in which students damn the country in which you live, and it would be tempting to just get mad and call them misinformed or brainwashed children. It is also eyeopening to read these essays and get a view of our country that we might not be fully aware of. I think your page and these essays clearly fulfill your stated purpose of getting scholars work published and open to peer review. And I think it would be extremely interesting to see essays inresponse to these essays by American students. (forgive me if I envision these students and American students becoming penpals and learning to like each other. I just want to be an optimist.) Another reaction I have is the reaction of a teacher. I have a problem with the way the essay topics were stated. My experience with ninth grader (I haven't worked with 7th graders, but I would think that they would be more so) is that if you give them a topic they try to answer it. So if the topic is America got what it deserves, or Osama Bin Laden is not guilty, students will try to use that as the topic of their essays, and probably not consider the fact that they can take the other side in their essays. Also, and this might be my jingoistic, American bias, but I thought I detected a distinct bias in the teacher's comments on the students' papers. Wow, my thoughts and reactions are going all over the place. Maybe that was part of your concern - peoples' initial reaction to the letters themselves. I had not read the David Thornburg piece before, but I really enjoyed getting to see it. He states so clearly what I feel so strongly democracy is all about. And because of that, I think that it is right that these essays be made public so that people can read them, take a good look at themselves and their country, and see if they see any basis for these strong feelings. Now - one other concern, which might be one of yours, - The casting of blame on the Jews that runs through these letters. What is the 4000 Jews who did not show up to work story all about? Where did these children get this story? My concern here would be because some of our dear friends are Jewish, and this is hard and harsh on them. I realize these are the words and thoughts of children, but our Jewish friends know too well that these are also the words and thoughts of many of their parents. One other concern of mine is the racial profiling which is going on against anyone who is of middle easten descent, arab, and other muslim groups. Pakistanis are not Arabs, but they are Muslims and seem to have sympathy with Arabs. We are in real danger in this country of repeating the tragic injustices against Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor. Would these essays further inflame anti-muslim sentiments? Gee, Ted, I don't think I am being any help to you at all. I have all these gut feelings and reactions and concerns, but when you come right down to it, I believe as you do that students should have an audience for and peer review of their work, and that freedom of expression is one of the most important rights we have in this country. I am completely against censorship of ideas. You say this will be part of your presentation. What is the whole presentation? I know you submitted it way before Sept. 11th, and just wonder how this all fits together. Thank you for sharing this with me, and I will be glad to converse further with you about this. Pat Schulze