Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 21:17:39 -0600
    From: schulze 
    To: tednellen 
    Subject: Re: a request
    
    Ted,
            I have gone to your web page and read your comments, the lesson plan,
    the letter, and all of the students' essays.  Very powerful stuff here. 
    I am not sure just what your concerns are, so I will take the liberty of
    giving you my gut reaction to the material.  Some will be positive and
    some will be negative.  Then I will tell you what some of my concerns
    would be and see if those are some of your own.
            First,The children clearly express very strong feelings about the sept.
    11th happenings, and some of them are very hard to read.  It makes me
    wonder if this is their true perception of the events, if this is the
    way the media in Pakistan is presenting the facts to them, if their
    thoughts represent their parents views, or their teacher's views.
            It is hard, of course, to read essays in which students damn the
    country in which you live, and it would be tempting to just get mad and
    call them misinformed or brainwashed children.  It is also eyeopening to
    read these essays and get a view of our country that we might not be
    fully aware of.
            I think your page and these essays clearly fulfill your stated purpose
    of getting scholars work published and open to peer review.  And I think
    it would be extremely interesting to see essays inresponse to these
    essays by American students. (forgive me if I envision these students
    and American students becoming penpals and learning to like each other. 
    I just want to be an optimist.)
            Another reaction I have is the reaction of a teacher.  I have a problem
    with the way the essay topics were stated.  My experience with ninth
    grader (I haven't worked with 7th graders, but I would think that they
    would be more so) is that if you give them a topic they try to answer
    it.  So if the topic is America got what it deserves, or Osama Bin Laden
    is not guilty, students will try to use that as the topic of their
    essays, and probably not consider the fact that they can take the other
    side in their essays.  Also, and this might be my jingoistic, American
    bias, but I thought I detected a distinct bias in the teacher's comments
    on the students' papers.
            Wow, my thoughts and reactions are going all over the place.  Maybe
    that was part of your concern - peoples' initial reaction to the letters
    themselves.
            I had not read the David Thornburg piece before, but I really enjoyed
    getting to see it.  He states so clearly what I feel so strongly
    democracy is all about.  And because of that, I think that it is right
    that these essays be made public so that people can read them, take a
    good look at themselves and their country, and see if they see any basis
    for these strong feelings.
            Now - one other concern, which might be one of yours, - The casting of
    blame on the Jews that runs through these letters.  What is the 4000
    Jews who did not show up to work story all about?  Where did these
    children get this story?  My concern here would be because some of our
    dear friends are Jewish, and this is hard and harsh on them.  I realize
    these are the words and thoughts of children, but our Jewish friends
    know too well that these are also the words and thoughts of many of
    their parents.
            One other concern of mine is the racial profiling which is going on
    against anyone who is of middle easten descent, arab, and other muslim
    groups.  Pakistanis are not Arabs, but they are Muslims and seem to have
    sympathy with Arabs.  We are in real danger in this country of repeating
    the tragic injustices against Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor. 
    Would these essays further inflame anti-muslim sentiments?
            Gee, Ted, I don't think I am being any help to you at all.  I have all
    these gut feelings and reactions and concerns, but when you come right
    down to it, I believe as you do that students should have an audience
    for and peer review of their work, and that freedom of expression is one
    of the most important rights we have in this country. I am completely
    against censorship of ideas.
            You say this will be part of your presentation.  What is the whole
    presentation?  I know you submitted it way before Sept. 11th, and just
    wonder how this all fits together.
    
    Thank you for sharing this with me, and I will be glad to converse
    further with you about this.
    
    Pat Schulze